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what is going on guys welcome back to
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another session of feel breaking fix
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i'm always in a shop look at that yeah
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we are in beta testing fixing issues now
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hey gekko thanks for joining
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i love explain punctuality
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yeah i hope you all had a really good
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weekend as in long weekend although it
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wasn't really long
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no no no no no but hey another one and
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then this weekend will be a long weekend
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as well because monday is anzac day
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i just know there's a public holiday
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that's over oh that's nice
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there'll be i think it's something to do
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with australia and new zealand as a
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first and foremost
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let's do the acknowledgement of the
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country and pay our respects to the
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elders so here we go
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i begin today by acknowledging the
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traditional custodians of the land on
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which we gather today and pay my
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respects to the elders past present and
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future i extend their respect to
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aboriginal and torres strait islander
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that was brilliant smurf ass sand
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now i should probably just smooth that
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silk that makes a lot more sense isn't
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this project is as it's as smooth as
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oh hilarious hilarious
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yeah um so today how about you choose a
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how about we let the uh viewers hate
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khan var how about we let the viewers
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choose the background noise today
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ah that would be a great idea
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yeah convo you're up
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by the way i looked at an sac day it's
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like a memorial day for veterans
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yeah it's coming back to me now slowly
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oh rock here we go
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got all the rock one
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is our next project going to be the
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stream yard spotify integration
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maybe if they pair if they pass 5
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million bucks why not
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all right i'll do it for five
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all right um so yeah today we're going
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to be focusing on the rest of the fixes
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to do so first of all we're gonna open
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do you wanna go through tory
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you want me to share my screen yeah
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because i'm still having problems with
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sharing the screen this oh really
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it's chrome is it mac it's
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not allowing me to do it as in chrome
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finishes a new intro is still hopefully
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a work in progress and he'll be you will
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be here so we're going to heart once he
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he's going all in i mean so
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all in hundred percent yeah
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that's actually why he wasn't able to
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make this show yesterday he's working so
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he pulled up oven overnighter and then
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for two slides in a row like wow
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i love your dedication
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put the do the websocket thing
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as in um extend the web socket timings
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as a websocket time needs to be extended
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wait is somebody having an issue
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so we basically discussed this
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and um you actually said that it's
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disconnecting the person if they're not
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active for probably a few minutes
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gosh that's where i thought why that
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uh yeah there's also the maximum limit
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set by aws which i think is like two
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hours or something
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yeah it should be fine
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okay cool then that's fine then we don't
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really need to worry about that
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for this i think they get disconnected
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after 10 minutes if they're idle
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uh if that's i think that's what you're
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referring to yeah yeah
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so i'm not great with web sockets
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but i think typically
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uh i think they call it like a heartbeat
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so you send this like ping pong
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every so often just to keep the
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connection from going idle and then
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it's almost like polling
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i would say it's kind of similar to
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right you just want to say hey i'm not
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gone like i'm still around like don't
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yeah we can probably do that one do you
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know how easy or hard that is
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let's take a look i don't think it's too
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that's a new concept
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just fish just fish
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that's exactly what we're doing jack dab
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fishing basking blushing
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client handshake server response keeping
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blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
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okay maybe it's in here
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they said that's your definition as well
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oh pings and pongs
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there we go oh um yeah
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does that thing's important the
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heartbeat all works okay
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either the clown or something should
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so how do we implement
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we know what that is now
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how do you think google
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you use that you can use this to make
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sure the client is still connected for
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why did i say complete socket ping pong
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sending frame to a server
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back to the mdm because i think it
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might be there in the api
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or they might have an example
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i've done it i did it before it's just
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been a long it's like more than a year
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this is what i probably
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go uh and type in google i implement
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websocket ping pong that's so it might
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and i wonder if it's under if i if you
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don't mind i'm just gonna see if it's
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that's sending a message of course
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message open close error
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check that we're not reading them
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raised this issue a while ago that when
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the user is i mean when the users are
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connected to a socket to a board
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if anyone's idle then the websocket
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connection terminates itself
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so we're just basically
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probably a websocket ping pong
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eliminate their bug
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because if touring tests today
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it happened it will happen in prague as
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right i didn't test it
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i thought you said that oh by the way if
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the user stays idle it does disconnect
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oh yeah i think i think that
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is what will happen yeah
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okay so they just basically
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implementing the fix for that right
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the websockets do they work in prod
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do they work are they all fixed
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websocket currently looks broken
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do we wanna test the
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sockets first now because i don't
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remember it's broken it's fixed
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so if you want to create a board and
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then send me the link of that
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because what was the board we're using
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i'm gonna tell you
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being my approachmen
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yeah it might be the wrong api gateway
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that's probably the problem
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but i made sure i changed it
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it interesting well i uploaded still
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i uploaded the still front-end js to s3
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but maybe i didn't have the right
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i see if that makes sense yeah because
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when i did it i mainly had to copy and
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paste it and then upload it yeah that
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would make sense it's broken
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uh do you want to try
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um it's test one to oh you're already
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give me the url for that one
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for uh the link yeah words sure exactly
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yeah when you open the dev tools it is
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same must be that thing that we probably
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have to change there you
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upload the file again we just have to
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invalidate the cache
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yeah that's fine no problem
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all right do you have the url for the
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yeah i'm just gonna
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i was navigating to that
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yeah that's all one
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actually i can just go into my project
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oh i don't want to be your studio
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to retest it since probably
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oh yeah it would have impacted people's
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testing for sure although i don't know
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if they used it together
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then they might not have noticed
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i can't try this one
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why don't why don't we use the github
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the deployments for s3
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because we would have set that up
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okay i'm missing something now i am
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missing i have a guest i remember i set
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set up the github actions
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so that it would copy to s3
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and then invalidate the cache
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whenever you push to
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but i think it just
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after you after you deleted the stack
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it needed it needed to be it needed a
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environment variables changed
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in order for it to work again ah
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so that was the i don't i don't i don't
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have access to that you do
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or maybe i do now because it's like uh
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it's not a personal repo anymore but i
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don't know if i have the permissions
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yeah you can have okay so let's do
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first thing first is
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uh i don't have it in my code
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uh do you know do you remember the
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the file you want to
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copy from and then the s3
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so that would be in your current
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forward slash forward slash
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scrambler front end
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and then with a hyphen in between
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yeah there we go all right
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do you know the command to invalidate
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it's fine you can invalidate it manually
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i think it's in the github actions
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actually but i you need the distribution
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yeah that's what i was thinking about
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gekko said is this a rerun special
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he's on to us again
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all right cool so i am i know for us
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from my own account wow interesting
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these are we're just re-running clips of
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okay um so i'm gonna invalidate the
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all right it's in progress
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okay that that's completed
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yes so you want to give me the board
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uh you already understand yeah
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okay i'm gonna go into the board and
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can you see my one
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um mine's still loading
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right now i think it's
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failed to load reserves
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oh call them names
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uh what's happening there
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to beta testing we started from one
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led to another issue that led to a
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second issue and which led to the third
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they got this story so
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well why am i getting
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so does the dev board not exist
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you just created isn't it
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i just went to a url
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okay try to create the board properly
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tory that's weird though it should kick
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me if it's not a real board it should
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kick me to the home page
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that's another bug then
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but it was it was doing that before
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it wasn't no like before we deleted the
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stack like weeks ago
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at least just yeah it was yeah it was
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what's up we're going to
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uh hang on a minute i'll just check in
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the dev board interesting
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is someone going in there deleting
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that would be funny
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honestly that'll be hilarious if they're
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no no there is a board
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no it's not then a dev board no let's
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just create a new one then are there any
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there are million boards
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oh really i don't know so someone's
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someone's been creating boards
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okay chad there are no um
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looks like there's some error
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what kind of error
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it's your front end board name
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because you can't find it yeah that
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need to make the still front end public
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so i'm gonna do that that's my fault i
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should have remembered it
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how do you do how do you um
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shouldn't that just automatically
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no it doesn't matter automatically
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unless it's on the
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by default all the objects in s3 are
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private unless you
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mr tory that's your favorite all right
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let's see if that works now that was
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probably the problem then
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but if that was that in the console you
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should have said that con access is
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well yeah now now it brought me to the
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there you go yeah so that was a problem
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then because it wasn't able to access
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yeah and now the websocket is connected
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okay so now i'm gonna go into the dev
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i don't know if the name matters but
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there you go perfect all right
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okay cool so websockets are working back
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huh how come it's not saving you
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it's nice it's not saving it
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how many times are you pressing it
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i'm not getting well it could have saved
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it but i'm not seeing a pop-up
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this is getting very interesting
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i am not seeing i'm not seeing a
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confirmation yeah because it's not
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saving the notes for some reason
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um but why the let's hit in a console
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i think it's the viewer
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how did they get the url
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just to lock down the screen
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hide the url tori hide it
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you played that noise that's funny no i
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didn't i didn't honestly i didn't
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who else is on the street
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i don't believe you
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you don't need to because you're playing
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i didn't play that noise
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i didn't know you actually fought it no
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it wasn't that loud
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i muted you for a second and and the
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voice stops coming
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you will find tory
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let's focus i know four practices you
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because you know you know how i'm
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meeting you and the voice stopped coming
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oh that was it that was me
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that was a bit much
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how much did you eat tori
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oh man my my cheeks are from laughing
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try and save the boy
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this is gonna be the
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so somebody put this fart sound inside
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yeah look at that that's why it was
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did they inject this
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look it i keep getting more parsley
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oh yeah playing okay i muted it i muted
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the bra the window okay so now we have
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all right i'm gonna take this off
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all right i'm gonna take this project
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all public now hang on a minute
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no this is not happening
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that is hilarious honestly
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i know who it might be to be honest
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how did he how did he get those like did
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he use the websocket connection
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let's let's find out how i did this
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let me check let me take a look here
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oh no did my dev tools freeze
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no because i've just taken this eye off
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that was fun i was like
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are you playing i thought you were
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playing a practical joke on me
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to what url um the pride question mark
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yes this is the one
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yeah so this is what might have happened
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either so he might
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okay hang on i'm gonna go and delete the
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board as well it's true it's chewing up
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it's chewing up all the resources on my
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we're going to delete
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he attached the the wave file
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the the sound file to a note
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or just sent it via websocket
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but it'd be funny if he could attach it
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to the note but i don't know it i feel
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like maybe i think he
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might not be through that he can't no it
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with the websocket because
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the board is up through the websocket
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almost under the website
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it was so loud in my headphones too like
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i couldn't hear anything else i heard
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to be honest i might know who this is
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but they're not coming on the comments
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i think he's created so
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just based on the pattern here it looks
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like creating a card and then
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i think it's that simple actually
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that's really genius of him to be honest
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yellow card and then that file and then
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blue card and then that file ah so he's
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doing with every card
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i'm wondering if he's attaching it as a
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so here's the card
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maybe he's not attaching them to cards
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he's just sending them
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through the websocket connection
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this is hilarious to be honest
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um yeah i don't see any content on the
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actual cards here but
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i thought there was a way to look at
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what gets sent through the network
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is there any way to upload the file
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console well he could just do it in the
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okay i didn't know that
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let's go back to our um websocket ping
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that was really hilarious though
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i made my day yeah
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i honestly thought that it was you but
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then i was i wish man i wish i could
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that's a lot too yeah i thought you were
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playing like a practical joke on me
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you're just playing some sound in the
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yeah but no i wasn't i wasn't it was
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oh here we go here we go here so zayn
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i'm looking in the
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okay and oh yeah so yeah he just
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so he just injected like uh
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um what do you call that
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whatever like he injected some
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javascript with the new audio
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play script so we should
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so i guess that means that
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when you're adding a card
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and it's getting sent through the
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there's no um there's no
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sanit uh there's no we're not sanitizing
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the cards in the back end making sure
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something like this could happen i need
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to do that it would be bad because if it
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was a malicious person they could
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like attach a malicious link or
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yeah that's a really
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good point we need to do that and um
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good to learn this through farting
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and to be honest i know who exactly as
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and i can basically confirm who exactly
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that has happened once
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before in my personal website
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and as soon as well not the um
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sounds but a kind of a picture
0:41:05
which was even hilarious to be honest
0:41:14
who can this be and
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then i found a heart that did it
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oh so it is offline now okay yeah well
0:41:28
basically all the all he needed to do
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all i needed to do was just add this
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sorry i went kind of dark there but um
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add this script to the
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to the um as the text or even through
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the dev tools and then when this
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script gets injected then it's it's
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gonna automatically
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yeah yeah that's basically it
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yeah so if we if we just
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we should get a part sound
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oh wow what's going on
0:42:38
all right let's see what
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uh i think is because um it's not online
0:42:48
i think it's just so full
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oh i muted the browser that's why ah
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didn't play our sound
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there you go that's how we did it oh
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that's how we did it
0:43:34
all right so he just injected a script
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so yeah it just needs to be sanitized on
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the back end so that you can't
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but that was raining genius
0:44:01
it was a lot did you hear as much as i
0:44:06
it was basically constantly going off
0:44:12
like hang on as tori really had that
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and the parts are that loud
0:44:25
that's basically the highlight of the
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oh so he's also trying to clear the
0:44:46
so that you can't open the console but
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too bad for you geckdev i turn that off
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that's my contact them he isn't talking
0:45:05
i preserve my console so you can't clear
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this is hilarious be honest
0:45:24
as in i i kept thinking hang on tori
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would never do this kind of a thing as
0:45:30
in far on the mic on the shelf
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keep a straight face
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to go to a doctor to get your air
0:46:02
checked i don't need nothing
0:46:05
yeah what if i said that
0:46:07
i don't hear anything wayne what are you
0:46:12
but eventually the kind of laugh you
0:46:14
would kill me i could tell there's a bit
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yeah boy i'm warning you now what you
0:46:25
anyway yeah back to the
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i thought you were watching fought beat
0:46:56
i actually thought that it was you
0:46:59
when i basically muted you
0:47:07
but then i unmuted you and then muted
0:47:12
but then it kept on coming
0:47:16
ah but anyway i'm the heart of the
0:47:21
let's go to this one
0:47:23
and check how to implement ping pong
0:47:27
i thought there was a
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but maybe not anymore
0:47:37
yeah we already read this
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so it tells us what is a ping pong and
0:48:05
what does it do but that's all it
0:48:07
doesn't really tell us how to implement
0:48:10
yeah is it something that's done
0:48:22
do you wanna maybe
0:48:24
google as in implement websockets ping
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pong i i yeah i did and i didn't really
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okay let me go back to google
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i wonder if the aws
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well i guess keep alive is if you get
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disconnected it will automatically
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reconnect so maybe that's different
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i wonder if this log rocket article has
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their articles are usually decent
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well if we can't find the answer then
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uh here i would say we should
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aws documentation again
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see if they make mention of it
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all right i will have a look
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so it's saying that um
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i will share this link with you
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so apparently for the service side it
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only responds with pong
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yeah so if we ping from the client to
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say hey i'm still around
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then we'll get out we'll get a pong but
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uh what it's saying is the
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the lambda or the aw whatever the aw i
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guess it's not a lambda but the aws
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api websockets will not send a ping
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the only thing upon that okay yeah so
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you start you say ping
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and then you get back upon you don't
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a pong you send a ping then you get a
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the server would send the pawn back
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in response to the ping so
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it's always in that order it's always
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ping-pong ping-pong
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well that's good to know though but yeah
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i was thinking just like from the client
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side we just need to send a few pings
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i use the ping-pong id and it works
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nicely here's an implementation but it's
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yeah i've seen it called the heartbeat
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oh so it's got a 10 minute idle
0:53:31
connection timeout yep that's what i was
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talking about yeah so if
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you don't get up if you don't send any
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data with intent or don't get any data
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then the server will think you're
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you're not there right so it'll just
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i've got a tutorial i'm
0:54:00
gonna check how that is just bear with
0:54:17
this does not use a ping pong strategy
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well here's some code for
0:54:30
re-establishing a connection after it is
0:54:34
after a connection is lost
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if this that reconnect clear time
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connection times out in 10 minutes
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how about after us
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we set timer on in in the background and
0:55:07
as soon as he's about to be say
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nine nine minutes we
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cursor um if you don't want to be
0:55:21
disconnected from the back of yeah
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well the cursor doesn't send a websocket
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no so the whole point is there for the
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idle more than a certain amount of time
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yeah but they have they have to send uh
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i think i think receiving is fine
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but they have to either send or receive
0:55:52
a websocket message in order to
0:55:58
to know that they're still connected to
0:56:05
but i thought that um
0:56:08
aws will automatically disconnect after
0:56:12
the user has been idle for
0:56:17
that is that is right but
0:56:21
it means they haven't sent or received a
0:56:24
websocket message in the last 10 minutes
0:56:28
so i do so basically they are defining
0:56:33
sending or receiving messages
0:56:36
i believe i'm definitely sending i
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believe receiving would also be included
0:56:42
if it's in the spec great if not i would
0:56:45
assume receiving would also count
0:56:56
just thinking about this solution
0:57:03
they define idle by
0:57:05
a message being received or not so as
0:57:08
soon as the messages
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stop from both sides
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for more than 10 minutes
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the websocket will disconnect
0:57:38
all right we will probably have to come
0:57:40
back to it tomorrow then
0:57:42
because sure yeah i'll take i'll try to
0:57:44
take another look at it
0:57:52
that'd be awesome man
0:57:54
a lot of like like socket i o is a very
0:57:58
um websocket library and
0:58:02
i'm pretty sure that type of thing would
0:58:03
just come baked into the api
0:58:12
had a heartbeat example in their
0:58:14
documentation but i don't know if they
0:58:20
know i'll probably have to check that
0:58:24
if they have it then that would be i
0:58:26
will probably then
0:58:30
the go-to way isn't it
0:58:33
yeah i think well all it really is is
0:58:36
you're just sending a message
0:58:42
the server just needs to know that
0:58:48
that you're there so i believe that's
0:58:56
yep all right cool
0:58:58
revisit a tomorrow
0:59:03
yeah been a good session um yeah good
0:59:11
yeah really hilarious
0:59:14
which was fun um yeah thanks for joining
0:59:17
guys and for the really
0:59:21
what should i say a genius surprise
0:59:35
today we basically we looked into
0:59:38
webster um made the websocket connection
0:59:41
and we're gonna we're just
0:59:47
increase the websocket timeout time from
0:59:51
uh to be more than 10 minutes
0:59:55
yeah that's basically it um if you want
0:59:58
to join us tomorrow um feel
1:00:01
free to on um because
1:00:03
we're gonna be doing some really cool
1:00:08
thanks for joining and um i will see you
1:00:13
thanks everybody have a great day
