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all right welcome back everyone welcome
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another episode of build breaking fix
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thomas do you want to give us an intro
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basically on this uh
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on this stream we're a team of
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developers who are working on
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um a project called scrambler
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this is basically um
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enhanced version of um
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of the original scrambler which is
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essentially a kanban board um
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that is available for anyone to use it's
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open source so basically what we had
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we're doing to it is we're adding
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persistent storage using aws
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um and then adding a few other features
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um and that's yeah that's the gist of it
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so today we're just going to continue on
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very nice that's pretty cool thanks for
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the introduction man
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um cool before we start i'll do the
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longitude of the country
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if we do this acknowledgement to just
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recognize the actual owners of the land
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um meet today so i'm just gonna put that
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i begin today by acknowledging the
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traditional custodians of the land on
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which we gathered today and pay my
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respects to the elders past present and
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future i extend their respect to
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aboriginal and torres strait islander
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do you actually know the story behind
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briefly i mean we did study um
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we did study it in school yeah uh right
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it would have been it's just pretty
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do you know much about yourself
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um not really my partner keeps telling
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me about it but um i do know that um how
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it was taken over and
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just yeah just how bad it was so
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i i think it's like the recognition is
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well um dessert for sure
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alrighty let's see what we are working
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um looks like the stream has been just
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on and off these days but
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that's on me um couldn't see on tuesday
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had a coding interview it went good um
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um i just couldn't get one question done
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on like the task was simple the
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hard part was to do it in a given time
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like you know how they're like simple
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problems you can do it with a for loop
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so it was like a very complex problem
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and then afterwards i realized we had to
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depth first search and i was like oh
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so this is for internship okay okay oh
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yeah yeah it was for an internship um
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yeah atlassian but probably want to get
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it just just because
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but yeah it was a good experience i
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other questions but
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um yeah i don't know how the time
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publicity stuff works
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well i haven't gone too deep into the
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i did it uni yeah um
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design of algorithms
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everybody hated that that stuff yes it
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intense yeah did you do something like
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that in your course or yeah i did i i
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did a course called algorithmic analysis
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and i did one on data structures
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both were cracked so
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what language do you do it
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the language story hits
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but i feel like it should have been done
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in like c plus plus
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um was that the overnight
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yeah no sorry it's like the the table
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leg actually touched it
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it's metal so it makes it sound
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yeah we did i did that unit in uh c and
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it was like such a yeah
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oh then you have to like memory
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management as well then
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yeah i had memory management issues
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oh story says got to get started
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until you have the highest access rate
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you should try doing it
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cool uh yes let's let's get back to it
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this has never worked
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looking at vehicle only works
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dude i was a jb hi-fi like literally
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they have like the craziest sales
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like won't even believe yeah
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how much do you think
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how low do you think can an amazon echo
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original price about 90 i bought mine
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that's the is it like the alexa thing
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yeah yeah like this thing
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how much do you think how low can they
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oh you mean it was cheaper than 90
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it was like 19 i was like bro 19
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that is not fair yeah
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did you get anything okay
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not really i i mean i wanted to get
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just because i wanted to do like kind of
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another one for like two people to talk
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so rmit is like pretty chill
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you can rent the podcast studio
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like student visits rented
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and you can bring a guest and record
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yes all nineteen hey get this
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oh sorry i'll check my slack
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um yeah i don't check my slack more
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yes i'm here sorry
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is your how do you get your work
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teams usually maybe use teams
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yourself did you use teams or you always
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um apparently we use discord
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okay believe it or not yeah
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um yeah just because like it's kind of
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like a very startupy vibe
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okay like 12 people so
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yeah makes sense i prefer to use it
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anyway let's see what we have
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yeah okay i pushed my yeah
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yeah which branch was it on it was in
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i need to check that's right i'll get
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what all these interviews you have
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detective is asking you a question what
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are all these interviews you have
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oh um yeah it was like a coding
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an internship i was just trying my luck
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yeah it was like better company that's
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i was just talking about the interview
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questions are all right
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um i'm messed up in one question
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the point was to make it with the least
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time complexity that's where
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i was like i don't know what to do like
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i don't know it was something like 20
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milliseconds i had like 35
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it was on lead code
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yeah like like i'll go into you um
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sorry have have you seen
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the founder of algo expert
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oh yeah yeah i don't think i watched
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you sure he was really really uh what's
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what's up oh yeah this guy
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that was a very good idea
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oh yeah listen for me um but yeah yes
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okay so it is on insert
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yeah use whatsapp what was the command
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a live dash server
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you know what's that just that small
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dash what's it called oh yeah you got it
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iphone no no yeah i didn't know
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this is called life
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you're getting the job tory
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x unemployed soon in my time
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hey is it the one yeah is it the front
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keep forgetting the company's name
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who said on the stream
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actually it will be cool though
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just for the memes
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have a look at jarrow
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pause the coding interview
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oh also i got my hair cut and if you
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guys want to see it
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oh yeah it looks good man
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does it look like a kid
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no i think it looks good
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should we work in the back end in that
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oh yeah are we talking about the board
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yeah the board name thing
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what did we have to work on that
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um so we to get the board by by name
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trying to have a tank
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yeah maybe you can do that
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okay that says last year about coding
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yeah we'll do that
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let's try and think what's do do you
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want to just do first all like delete as
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you know how we have implemented post
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maybe we can just implement delete and
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delete an update as well okay
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you mean the cards don't update at the
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do they um let me check
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oh i think that's more important yeah if
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it's not updating for sure
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maybe after that we should also try to
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retrieve the cards as well
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displayed on the board
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how clear is my voice in this mic
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oh yeah very clear
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what mike is it by the way like good one
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uh blue yeti it's called
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thanks story oh was it loud oh sorry
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mean very clear about the pack of ships
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all right okay yeah just give me one sec
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i'll change the ball
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um what's the current endpoint
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how does it start can you just tell me
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okay let's see if it's updating
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okay so this is my one
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let's see if i do this
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oh yeah so right now it's adding a new
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you know what i mean oh yeah yeah i know
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trying to have a thing
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we should uh yeah we should change that
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so when post note is
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called we should check that if this
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thing is already there
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so do the notes have an id
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try to have a thing
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um let me see what god control log
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today i'm calling sergeant ken
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the you know the date created on the
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how come it's just a bunch of random
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numbers by the way
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the date created feel on um
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is it a bunch of random numbers is it
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which where is it it looks like in the
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background yeah go enforcement person
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um and then you look at the date created
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oh i know what it is
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the time in seconds from 1971 to jan
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oh okay you know how did credit works i
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think that's how it works
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i think so that's how it's calculated
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yeah yeah yeah pretty sure um
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it's time in seconds from first gen 1970
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yeah did you know like when you use the
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any of any of the random
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function or anything
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it's not actually random it's just
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some particular day or date
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okay i didn't know that actually
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like i knew there was like some kind of
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algorithm which means it's like yeah it
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it's pseudo random yes but yeah
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with the notes first maybe that's a
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first step that we should do
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yes so just wanna have a look so what's
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happening right now is that
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it goes from keen value
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and when is this function we call update
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all right okay so wherever we are doing
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text for notes right
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when we're doing set
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see this got inserted
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converted and printed but if i
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and the id remains the same
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what we're going to do is that
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right i remember we had a insert in a
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not inserted attribute
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i don't know if we are using it or not
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but if we are using that
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and there you go so
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so we just need to check if status is
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not inserted then we insert it
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okay i shouldn't be too bad
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let's see the stairs right now
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when you're changing the card is it
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changing it back to
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to non-it not inserted
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like when you're changing the
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the information on the got the text on
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the card yeah yeah so yeah so from not
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inserted now it's inserted
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yeah but i'm saying so
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um what i mean is we click save right
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and then as soon as you edit the card
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again it should uh should change it back
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oh no no so by inserted and not inserted
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is this note already in the back end or
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so the whole idea is that
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if the key says inserted then we'll call
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it's not in the back end then we'll call
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okay yeah yeah okay what you mean
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yeah i just wanna control the log and
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oh it's value not key
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oh yeah it is value
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oh we are printing it
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i know it's too small sorry no no
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yeah gekko says nested switches are the
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yes and now it isn't silly that's good
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case not inserted now we need case
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that's all we need
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oh i mean oh the way we are doing it i
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yeah we are doing it
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yeah we did that the other day because
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we wanted the 200 status yeah yeah
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get not patch note
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and what doesn't you want to mean
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all right okay that shouldn't be bad
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so it's right patch
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it needs a board id
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and might need a note id
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you can do a get note
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that's probably what we can only do
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can we go back on still fronting
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isn't this assuming that we are storing
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in the back end okay
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orbee though let's try another thing
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this is an interesting
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so we need a note id to post the note
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but we aren't getting it
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i think back and we changed a little to
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return the node id
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oh oh we're not even storing the node id
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okay we're not even storing the node id
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yeah so we can store it here
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um wherever this is being returned
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um for that we do need to go to the back
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end but that being said let's just try
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hardcore and see if this scenario works
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okay now to hard code it
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only very hardcore is to
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i'll just use my little k5 thing
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this is what happens when you don't work
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on the project every day you get amnesia
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bigger problem here
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in the world is the note id here
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yeah we're not storing them already
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right then how are we gonna reference
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that's what i was trying to say
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but we did have note id where to
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we were never storing the note id
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that's the only way you get to things
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and we need it for git node as well so
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we never delete node as well
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could we just i mean we could just alter
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the code a little bit right too
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no we can't because
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i think we need to open the back end
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there's another way
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yeah we're missing the key which we
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didn't have i don't know why it's not
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i i'm pretty sure if i post a board with
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it's gonna have a key
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and then post a note right
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store the board id dynamically in the
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head title dynamically
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that way you can always reference a bit
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confused as to what it means
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this is the primary key sort of board id
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okay in the head title
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bow right in the title that way you can
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always reference it
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what do you mean by the head title dory
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it should have been
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shouldn't happen twice
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this is the back end
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is it the same code um
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deployed in yours the actual back end
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which is deployed right now
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or did we go ahead and remove this
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um i'm not too sure i generally
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uh wasn't really here for the back end
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um yeah that's true
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you know what i feel like
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note id in from the front end and post
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it in the back end
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that makes sense to you
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know what do you mean
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oh yeah i know what you mean i know what
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yeah i got you mean tori as well um
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yes we we should we'll definitely do
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trying to resolve how
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notes are going to be referenced
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um what do you say tonight can we just
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post the id as well
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yeah i think we can um
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is the is the db already
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uh structured to accept node id like
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i think we can do that easily
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try to have a look
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so right now the request object has
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um it has some oh yeah though
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so request object has this
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um we need to give it
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the note id as well and just assign the
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i don't think so there is much to it
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all right okay what does story say
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you'll update the title in the page in
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your browser by doing that
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yeah go what you mean
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what story means is that
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oh is it too small
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you just store it in the tab you mean
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he's talking about the board right
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yeah he's talking about how to say the
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primary key which is the board name
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i mean we don't really need to
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think about that at the moment right i
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body is going to have one more thing
0:39:00
okay um can we can i have a look at that
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um so yeah you go there you go so you
0:39:14
the request object is going to have all
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and this is how the node is being
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is it there's already a node id here
0:39:25
yeah but i don't know why is it not
0:39:26
appearing you can have a look have a
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take your two minutes
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um that's all good
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push it back after the ipo
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yep ip is getting out next month
0:39:50
i'm just gonna meet myself for a second
0:40:05
can you access the backing code in your
0:40:07
computer do you have it
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no i don't have it man
0:40:11
maybe let's just pull that as well
0:40:13
um did you share your screen for a
0:40:25
mvp gonna hit the deadline
0:40:30
it's a tricky one now
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okay um just open github i'll send you a
0:40:48
actually probably head to
0:41:04
yep so it'll be scrambler same api
0:41:11
you can probably clone it
0:42:14
let me see if i can add you as a
0:42:18
i think i have admin access i'm not sure
0:42:33
oh nevermind i can only approve pr's i
0:42:45
okay definitely need to text send them
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yes sorry probably
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um the first and last
0:43:04
the most advanced text tags
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i don't know if you have seen this meme
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story yeah it's called
0:43:45
it goes like it was lit fam and there's
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like a graveyard thingy
0:43:51
have you seen nathanish
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i think you do post a lot story um on
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oh i still remember the
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have you seen a snake um
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on his github account tanish
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tori has like this like cool little
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he explained it about how it was
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what is it like uh like the front page
0:45:13
oh that's pretty cool
0:45:17
are you moving is it
0:45:19
moving by itself oh
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i don't know it goes in the same
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i don't know how he made it
0:45:25
can you tell me like in dallas touring
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yeah it's pretty cool let's go show that
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i don't know when it stops oh there you
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oh i just there you go
0:45:59
right okay which one was it snake master
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oh which reaper was isn't this one
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i'll tell you as little 20 if i get to
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know yeah cool man
0:46:33
so yeah we should find out why this
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is it set up in the back end already oh
0:46:42
yeah so if i think if you do sam deploy
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and stuff it should
0:46:51
we can set up the new aws account
0:47:03
oh if we want we can test it here as
0:47:06
yeah don't mind anything
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i don't know maybe maybe we can see if
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it's a common thing first
0:47:27
yeah let me google
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i'm just surprised that it's not working
0:48:02
let me just text zen as well to give me
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least on github because i can't change
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but why do we want it to work anyway if
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the front ends note id
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if we plan to then here we don't need to
0:48:54
but i'm just thinking
0:48:58
which one would be like you know
0:49:00
i guess better practice perhaps um
0:49:12
it seems like getting this to work would
0:49:14
be a better practice
0:49:20
having two ids anyway doesn't seem the
0:49:37
doesn't the front-end id change though
0:49:49
all right i know what you mean
0:49:52
that's the thing right um
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i think they'll come when we
0:49:58
will actually go ahead and display these
0:50:03
i don't know how that's gonna
0:50:06
and we're just gonna use the current
0:50:13
if we're concerned about it changing
0:50:18
open the board again after closing it
0:50:23
i think we can just assign it ourselves
0:50:36
there's also this one little thing to
0:50:38
keep in mind i'll show it to you
0:50:40
yeah yeah you can see my screen
0:50:49
it's just a small little
0:50:52
food for thought kind of thingy but
0:50:55
it can be very interesting to
0:50:58
think about logically so you know how
0:51:01
this is your first session and you did
0:51:03
create note id and it give you a note id
0:51:11
with four zeros i think so
0:51:16
whatever it is i think it is in
0:51:21
one two three four five
0:51:23
you're not ready for this
0:51:27
being generated by a random number
0:51:32
so in this session if you keep creating
0:51:33
like 10 board notes it'll make sure not
0:51:36
to repeat the number
0:51:39
does that make sense yes it makes sense
0:51:41
because the guy like the code is
0:51:44
oh yeah if it's probably or not
0:51:47
i think you've gone well yeah when we
0:51:50
retrieve this same one two three four
0:51:55
there is a slight one in
0:51:58
hundred thousand chance that the port id
0:52:00
will be same somewhere yeah or not id
0:52:03
would be same somewhere
0:52:04
yeah yeah yeah it makes sense
0:52:10
yeah i think ideally we should use the
0:52:16
yeah i just don't know how to sort that
0:52:20
um maybe we can change the whole front
0:52:22
end to use the uid and then pass that
0:52:25
that just increases default tolerance
0:52:34
look feels on that side
0:52:42
i don't know how the card id is being
0:53:16
i just random so many times
0:53:19
oh there you go unique id
0:53:23
yeah so pretty we just if we can just do
0:53:37
how is the card id being used right now
0:53:59
okay i might just remove this
0:54:23
yes if i click this
0:54:29
yeah i think it's this one
0:54:40
i mean this is big enough as well i mean
0:54:42
let's not what do you say it's not
0:54:44
complicated and just use
0:54:46
this in the backend
0:54:52
but it's just like
0:54:54
yeah that point that you brought up just
0:54:56
doesn't feel like a good solution you
0:55:00
sorry tori again keep forgetting
0:55:06
i used to eat chips like last month as
0:55:08
well don't told me
0:55:14
i did something with my mic and i think
0:55:17
has become way more sensitive now
0:55:27
like you you don't like doing that
0:55:30
yeah i don't think that's a good idea
0:55:35
it feels like a workaround
0:55:41
yeah i think ideally we use that uu
0:55:44
id from from the back end
0:55:46
but we should see like how like why it's
0:55:48
not working probably
0:55:53
otherwise maybe we otherwise maybe we
0:55:58
use the uuid here instead
0:56:03
i feel like we should have the same note
0:56:05
id front and back and both
0:56:16
i also feel like why didn't we do it
0:56:17
with a relational database sometimes
0:56:21
because everything is relational right
0:56:28
if you know what i mean
0:56:32
like if there's a note then there is a
0:56:35
note i think there's a schema to it
0:56:38
uh okay yeah true yeah i get what you
0:56:45
all right let's come back to tomorrow um
0:56:47
let's work on the back end tomorrow
0:56:50
maybe in the meantime we can probably
0:56:52
deploy to our aws account
0:56:57
yeah i mean yeah i got what you mean
0:57:00
like why why do you say that i know it's
0:57:02
good for learning and i i like i'm aws
0:57:05
advocate as well but
0:57:08
if this whole thing is very schema based
0:57:13
just just wanna know for my knowledge
0:57:28
yeah let's come back i'll ask sam to
0:57:30
give me access till then
0:57:33
we just apply to our account no pressure
0:57:38
and uh yeah even ask him about what he
0:57:41
about what he should do here as well
0:57:45
yeah i could probably call him like half
0:57:47
an hour or something and then
0:57:59
we still didn't think of our
0:58:04
that's true we need yeah
0:58:08
going to use since copyrighted archer
0:58:14
that's true sorry um okay i agree with
0:58:17
might be complex to access everything
0:58:20
but yeah that was fun um let's come back
0:58:25
let's start the backing out and uh
0:58:28
yeah just need to make sure that we're
0:58:30
referencing the note correctly
0:58:34
everything which is happening there is
0:58:36
clean rather than being overcrowned so
0:58:39
good point on that
0:58:40
um what do you have to add tori
0:58:52
uh no no um yeah i think we just gotta
0:58:54
work out a few things and uh
0:58:57
yeah and yeah and then we'll be on the
0:58:59
right track again but yeah
0:59:04
cool um thanks everyone thanks for
0:59:06
joining us today um
0:59:12
when are we seeing them
0:59:15
can we swim on sunday
0:59:17
uh yeah maybe i think that works for me
0:59:19
but um yeah tomorrow doesn't work for
0:59:25
all right okay yeah yes so we'll see on
0:59:29
yes same time same place
0:59:38
yeah there we go easy
0:59:41
see you guys good night see you guys
